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		<title>AlphaOne at 22:57, 26 May 2021</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some of these concepts are also layers in the [[Humans are like Onions]] conceptual model.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some of these concepts are also layers in the [[Humans are like Onions]] conceptual model.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>AlphaOne</name></author>
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		<title>AlphaOne at 22:28, 26 May 2021</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# [[The Supraagnostic Break Effect]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# [[The Supraagnostic Break Effect]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# [[Life Cul-de-sac Traps]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# [[Life Cul-de-sac Traps]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# [[The attention span effect]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# [[The Inertia Effect]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some of these concepts are also layers in the [[Humans are like Onions]] conceptual model.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some of these concepts are also layers in the [[Humans are like Onions]] conceptual model.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>AlphaOne</name></author>
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		<title>AlphaOne: Created page with &quot;The counterself is a general collective of mental structures that acts against the current wishes of the self.  It is not necessarily bad because the wishes of the self may be...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-25T22:24:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;The counterself is a general collective of mental structures that acts against the current wishes of the self.  It is not necessarily bad because the wishes of the self may be...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;The counterself is a general collective of mental structures that acts against the current wishes of the self.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is not necessarily bad because the wishes of the self may be unwise or counter survival but it usually manifests as a negative influence, preventing something that the Me thinks they should or wants to do. It can of course act to encourage the Self to do something, like for example, eat a donut or run away from a Tiger, when the self wants to diet or bravely fight the Tiger to impress someone, but it is easier conceptually to view it from the point if stopping the Me rather then sensibly encouraging the Me to do something as it avoids confusion as to who is driving you or the inbuilt safety systems of the vehicle.  &lt;br /&gt;
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So what actually is the counterself? &lt;br /&gt;
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Well it has many elements with the exact mix changing from person to person and also evolving overtime. It is also possible to edit and update the counterself through exercise and force of will, but probably never possible to eliminate it. It would in fact be dangerous to eliminate it as its an essential component of survivability and no ruler no matter how competent should really rule without advisors.&lt;br /&gt;
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The elements of the counterself map to the onion layers of the self and include:&lt;br /&gt;
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# [[The Soul]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Autonomous Biological Reactions]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[The Instinctual Genetic Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[The Epigenetic and Cross Evolution Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[The Energetic Efficient Animal]] &lt;br /&gt;
# [[The Inner Child (Start Point)]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[The Outer Child (Interaction Point)]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[The Conceptual Egostate Framework]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[The Specific Egostate Framework]] &lt;br /&gt;
# [[Transition Egostate Models]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[The Supraagnostic Break Effect]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Life Cul-de-sac Traps]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Some of these concepts are also layers in the [[Humans are like Onions]] conceptual model.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>AlphaOne</name></author>
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